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| Posted: Mon May 5th, 2008 09:35 pm |
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Hey, rule of thumb; prices reflect the esthetics of the bekko as much as the quality/durability. Remember that the real bekko bachi are made from a natural material so no two are the same. Even the most expensive of bachi will chip and break if not used properly, and that this is particularly true with the "heavier" tsugaru playing style. And I suppose this is more likely to happen as a beginner. no matter who you buy from, you should stick to a plastic/wooden bachi until you develop your playing style to the point where you're less likely to break the bachi. The cheapest ones are not real bekko, but "bekko-fuu The only thing I really know about the quality of bekko is that the more black or dark spots there are, the poorer the quality and the more easily they chip. (more expensive ones at the top of the page use natural materials instead of plastic) Attachment: 19002.jpg (Downloaded 163 times) Last edited on Mon May 5th, 2008 09:41 pm by Tsugaru |
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| Posted: Fri May 9th, 2008 01:29 am |
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Comment removed by author Attachment: 90010b811.jpg (Downloaded 159 times) Last edited on Mon Apr 6th, 2009 09:29 pm by AllenZ ____________________ To hell with circumstances. I create opportunities. "You're lucky Buddhism teaches freedom from desire, because I've got the desire to kick your ass!" 【温故知新】 「古きを尋ねて、新しきを知る」 |
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| Posted: Fri May 9th, 2008 03:33 am |
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Wow, I didn't know they farm them for their shells. All the reason to get one while you still can I guess. I just wish I could go to a store and hold a few to see which one felt best for ME. Oh well
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| Posted: Fri May 9th, 2008 03:47 am |
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Comment removed by author Attachment: TPBT01-tn.jpg (Downloaded 156 times) Last edited on Mon Apr 6th, 2009 09:30 pm by AllenZ ____________________ To hell with circumstances. I create opportunities. "You're lucky Buddhism teaches freedom from desire, because I've got the desire to kick your ass!" 【温故知新】 「古きを尋ねて、新しきを知る」 |
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| Posted: Fri May 9th, 2008 06:23 am |
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Comment removed by author Attachment: Yoshida_Model.gif (Downloaded 159 times) Last edited on Mon Apr 6th, 2009 09:29 pm by AllenZ ____________________ To hell with circumstances. I create opportunities. "You're lucky Buddhism teaches freedom from desire, because I've got the desire to kick your ass!" 【温故知新】 「古きを尋ねて、新しきを知る」 |
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| Posted: Fri May 9th, 2008 04:17 pm |
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Damn. Well I just got mine in the mail this morning. I see what you mean. the plastic one is like a toy. I know Im not dropping this one haha. I better go get a case ASAP. Made from this bad boy: Hawksbill Turtle Attachment: Hawksbill_Turtle.jpg (Downloaded 157 times) Last edited on Fri May 9th, 2008 04:20 pm by Tsugaru |
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| Posted: Fri May 9th, 2008 05:41 pm |
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AllenZ wrote: I found one of the shops the Yoshida Brother order their Bekko Bachi from..... They have on site the basic models they always buy: Can you link that site?
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| Posted: Fri May 9th, 2008 07:01 pm |
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Comment removed by author Last edited on Mon Apr 6th, 2009 09:30 pm by AllenZ ____________________ To hell with circumstances. I create opportunities. "You're lucky Buddhism teaches freedom from desire, because I've got the desire to kick your ass!" 【温故知新】 「古きを尋ねて、新しきを知る」 |
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| Posted: Fri May 9th, 2008 11:18 pm |
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Wow there ares some nice ones on that page. The maker does some really nice work. Some look like week old bananas haha.
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| Posted: Fri May 9th, 2008 11:31 pm |
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Comment removed by author Last edited on Mon Apr 6th, 2009 09:30 pm by AllenZ ____________________ To hell with circumstances. I create opportunities. "You're lucky Buddhism teaches freedom from desire, because I've got the desire to kick your ass!" 【温故知新】 「古きを尋ねて、新しきを知る」 |
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| Posted: Tue May 13th, 2008 03:48 am |
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This is a great performance check it out http://youtube.com/watch?v=yf_R08-Kbvg
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| Posted: Tue May 13th, 2008 04:02 am |
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Comment removed by author Last edited on Mon Apr 6th, 2009 09:30 pm by AllenZ ____________________ To hell with circumstances. I create opportunities. "You're lucky Buddhism teaches freedom from desire, because I've got the desire to kick your ass!" 【温故知新】 「古きを尋ねて、新しきを知る」 |
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| Posted: Tue May 13th, 2008 06:08 am |
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Yeah I hear you. I’m a traditionalist myself, hence the whole Tsugaru Shamisen thing. I wanted to break away and go after something New and fresh. Well in Japan its more common, but NY few and far between. The YBrothers are definitely trying to get their fan base poppin. Not always a bad thing. They got me into Tsugaru Shamisen, so I love them for that. But I hear what you’re saying. Some of their western style songs are made with bad musicians. I just listen to their parts in those cases.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 05:42 pm |
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Hi There !!!! I am a koto player from Austria, Vienna. After learning koto for some years I decided to start shamisen. Unfortunatley there is nearly no possibilities to learn or buy shamisens in my country. After searching the net, I found some shamisen sets and some books. Since you people seem familiar with shamisen related stuff, I wanted to ask you for your opinion. Since I have a lot of friends in japan, there would be a possibility, that they take it with them next time they come to europe. There is also a lot of sheet music for shamisen on the sato gakki site, but it seems no Tsugaru stile music and I desperately want to learn "Tsugaru jongara (or jonkara) bushi. Since my japanese is more based on hiragana and katakana, I also have problems to find sheet music on the net. a little help would be great. If you are interessted I could provide you guys with some koto sheet music.  best greetings from austria! Last edited on Tue Aug 5th, 2008 08:51 pm by momo_panda |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 06:50 pm |
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Comment removed by author Last edited on Mon Apr 6th, 2009 09:31 pm by AllenZ ____________________ To hell with circumstances. I create opportunities. "You're lucky Buddhism teaches freedom from desire, because I've got the desire to kick your ass!" 【温故知新】 「古きを尋ねて、新しきを知る」 |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 09:07 pm |
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Thanks for the pm and also the many good advices. As for mass productions: my koto was a quite cheap mass product thing I bought for a dumping price, but the sound is alltogether OK. But since a concert koto costs a fortune (even more than shamisen surely) I will wait and gain some money for the day I buy one. But I guess I could also put a stick into a plastikbasket and put some twine on it, if I decide to buy a really cheap shamisen. since there are more factors that can ruin the sound quality. After listending to some Jonkara bushis I realized that there might be more than one variation.... -.- Also I have to say that I never heard of this hype. Do you mean 東サワリ付き? I read that some shamisen have it and some not? What is this?
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| Posted: Tue Aug 5th, 2008 09:36 pm |
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Comment removed by author Last edited on Mon Apr 6th, 2009 09:31 pm by AllenZ ____________________ To hell with circumstances. I create opportunities. "You're lucky Buddhism teaches freedom from desire, because I've got the desire to kick your ass!" 【温故知新】 「古きを尋ねて、新しきを知る」 |
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18th, 2008 07:07 pm |
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Hello and grettings! Allow me to introduce myself, I'm a college student in southern California, call me JD. I've been playing with my school's taiko group since entering college except for a break that i took from the past year but point being I always been a big fan of Japanese culture and music. Since entering into the world of taiko I got a chance to learn about alot more traditional music from Japan, of which I learned of shamisen. Long story short, I eventually purchased my first tsugaru shamisen via email with a kinda employee at this website, for this model/set, http://www.ishibashi-webshop.jp/shop/g/g381006100/. I got this introductory model shamisen about two years ago and have since slowly but steadily made progress in trying to learn the instrument. I have a fair understanding of the different playing styles and what makes tsugaru unique amongst the others and have really come to admire the more professional performances I've been able to witness (first hand and otherwise). I'm always trying to learn more and expand upon my abilities with the shamisen but I've had trouble finding good resources in SoCal and so my progress, as I've mentioned, has been slow. But I happily found this forum and hope to continue learning as much as I can. I have only a small understanding of Japanese itself and so I'd like to ask, did I purchase a "bad" model shamisen to start out with? Granted I eventually see myself getting a newer and more proper instrument, but what are your takes on what I got from that particular website? Thanks in advanced!
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14th, 2008 09:47 pm |
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Chris Moran Approved
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Could someone direct me to a source for all-fiber or imitation ivory bachi? Thanks in advance. Last edited on Sat Oct 18th, 2008 02:04 am by Chris Moran |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21st, 2008 05:56 am |
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Comment removed by author Last edited on Mon Apr 6th, 2009 09:32 pm by AllenZ ____________________ To hell with circumstances. I create opportunities. "You're lucky Buddhism teaches freedom from desire, because I've got the desire to kick your ass!" 【温故知新】 「古きを尋ねて、新しきを知る」 |
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