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 Posted: Sat Feb 28th, 2009 08:34 pm
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cockneybanjo wrote:
what is the difference between a banjo uke with a tenor banjo neck and a 10" pot, and a tenor banjo?
If a tenor banjo uke is anything like a regular tenor uke the difference compared to a tenor banjo would be wider neck and shorter scale. And gut/nylon/nylgut/what-have-you strings instead of steel.



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I'd hazard to say that any banjo with a tenor banjo neck is a tenor banjo :)



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well, quite so. I don't believe that the strings, or the tuning, define the instrument because they are not part of the structure. Some 5-string and 4-string banjos are routinely strung with nylon or gut strings. Banjo ukes are occasionally strung with steel strings, although this isn't usual.

there's no reason why small banjos can't be tuned GCEA and played like a uke, and this is sometimes done

the scale length is defined by the neck, or vice versa, because of the fret spacings

in banjo terms it is usually reckoned that the neck defines the instrument. A brand X neck with a Stewmac rim is a brand X banjo ( somebody make sure the Gibson people don't hear this ) while a brand X rim with an aftermarket neck has no identifiable brand.

so, since we have specifically said that this instrument has a tenor banjo neck, I would say the prionciple of 'walks like a duck.. ' applies

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The 10", the tuning and the strings.



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Don't forget that a short scale "Irish Tenor" banjo has a scale length about the same as a baritone uke. So one can use the steel strings normally with a banjo, or use a set of nylon/Worth strings. Tune like a baritone (DGBE, also called Chicago tuning in the banjo world) and you won't have to learn new fingerings. The big pot should give you great sound

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I've done this with one of my long scale tenors, and it's lots of fun.  My guitar buddies get a kick out of it too.  I guess the 6 string guitar banjos would even be "funner".  Try it with guitar-reentrant tuning for a nice variant.  That's how I've got my baritione uke and love that sound.  I don't know any maker apart from GHS who sell these carbonfiber string sets for baritone uke.  If anyone knows other makers, I'd like to know! 



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I have a short scale tenor banjo. So can I put nylon strings on and tune to GCEA? What type of string should I get?

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BJ, I don't think you can buy stringsets that are long enough.  The required string length for tenor banjo, even short scale, is quite a bit longer than that of the tenor ukulele.  It could be done I think, if you could find the right thicknesses of fishing line and make your own set.  That's been discussed elsewhere in this forum. 



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i bought a set of the black nylons for my first banjolele a few months back. way to short especially as my pegs were off set so i bought a set of little barneys coloured strings off ebay. £3.50 for double pack of extra long banjo uke strings and they sound pretty good

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Yeah, I've tried them too (nice bloke who sells them, and a great player too), but I don't think they're long enough for a tenor banjo (BJ's question).  It just comes to mind though that Worth strings come in double length sets (buy from musicguymic on ebay).  So they'd be long enough for a tenor banjo.  I don't know how the string tension would be, but it would be worth a try perhaps BJ.

edit:  I can't remember now...Do the lil' barneys also come in the double length sets?  If so, they'd do they same job, of course.  But as for the string tension, I don't know.  A tenor banjo, even short scale, is considerably longer than a banjo ukulele.

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There's a guy in Holland that makes reasonably priced banjoleles. His name is
Wim van der Leden and his web site is: http://www.banjolele.net/index.html
His banjoleles start at 135 Euros (about 194 US Dollars in 2009). Pretty reasonable.

I'm thinking about buying one, but buying instruments unseen and un-played has
gotten me in trouble before. If anyone else has one of these and can comment on
its performance, workmanship, etc. I'd be interested in hearing about it.

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It's wonderful to have this link, thank you. 

I repair and restore string instruments and have bought vintage from ebay expecting problems and issues, and I'm never disappointed in that they always have them.  So if you purchase expecting problems, and bid accordingly, it's alright. 

Mind you, buying new, handcrafted and "restored" instruments can be a lot riskier in that no one wants to refinish or straighten a bowed neck on a new one.  And none of the few "restorations" I've bought were up to standard.  An ebay restoration is too often amateurish workmanship not evident in pictures.  I don't sell on ebay.  My buyers handle and play my instruments and I encourage them to take time and examine with scrutiny because I am proud of my work.  There is very little money to be made in this activity.  One does it for love of the craft. 

I play the banjouke and have a stable of vintage ones.  I've considered building them but my shop is not set up for this.  It's nice to find someone making them.  These look authentic as well, in that he's not using tambourine heads.  (which is OK as a cheaper and functional alternative, but not quite the same).

Happy New Year !!



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Hi Moweilian,

One of our ukuhooley members (ireland) recently bought one of Wim van der Leden's Banjoleles and I  thought it was a great little instrument. It played well, the intonation was bang on, and it was simply but well made. I would have no problem recommending Wim's instruments to anyone and unlike buying one from Ebay you know it is going to be playable with no issues from the get go.
I don't know how he manages to sell them for that money-they are a real bargain.
Tony


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Sounds good Tony!  Thanks Moweilian for letting us know about this! 

I inserted my own ebay experience just so fellow members without the experience might understand that route is rarely trouble-free.  Mind you, if you're able to do repairs, you might do well, if you bear in mind you're bidding in a very big marketplace and prices can easily get out of hand.  Know the value of what you're buying and remember that not all old banjoukes are splendid.  Many toys were made in the 30s too.

I'm likely to order one from this fellow in Holland because I just love banjoukes, and having one that's new would be a novelty indeedl!


EDIT: Tony, I was only talking about buying instruments on ebay in general, and suggesting that just because it's new doesn't mean it's problem-free.  We rely on and appreciate recommendations from members when making choices since so few of us are able to walk into a store and try one out before buying.    

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Sano qoute:
" EDIT: Tony, I was only talking about buying instruments on ebay in general, and suggesting that just because it's new doesn't mean it's problem-free.  We rely on and appreciate recommendations from members when making choices since so few of us are able to walk into a store and try one out before buying."

Hi Sano,
You are absolutely right in what what you say and if I gave the impression that I was suggesting that all banjo ukes bought on eBay could be a problem - then that's not what I meant. I mean  that it is very much a lottery and until you have any instrument in your hands, you cannot be sure it is a good one. (Bought on Ebay or eleswhere)
But, I can say that Wim's Banjoleles (based on the one I played) are very simply but well made. (Do read his comments on his website about the materials he uses)

Have a good 2010 everybody!

:-)

Tony

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Hi, Tony & Sano.

Thanks for the feedback.

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