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 Posted: Fri Oct 7th, 2005 12:48 pm
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I revived one of my old songs, to give slide banjo a try. I used my old junker goodwill banjo, because it's got a funky sound and high action. Played with a glass slide. 

Demon in that Bottle Hifi

Demon in that bottle Lofi

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Man, I woke up this morning, and happened to wander over to the computer.  I'm really glad that I did.  You've put a smile on my face and a "hillbilly funk" in my step.  I never imagined what a banjo would sound like with a slide, but now that I know, the world seems like a better place.

Thanks Dean.

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p.s. I'm gonna see Johnny Gimble, an original Texas Playboy with Bob Wills, tonight.  It should be some good fiddlin'.  Maybe I can convince him to use a bottleneck slide too.



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 Posted: Fri Oct 7th, 2005 06:38 pm
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Hey Thanks man!!! Hmmm, wonder if "Hillbilly Funk" is a genra we aut to add:cool:...I like the term.:2banjo2:Now if I can just figure out how to keep from kwanking the 5th string tuner with the slide......:crazy: 



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1four5 wrote:

"Now if I can just figure out how to keep from kwanking the 5th string tuner with the slide"

 

Either you can try to string it so that the tuner lays flat when it is perfect tune, or just think of it as percussion.

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Practice, practice, practice :P

Or, maybe adjust the way the tuner sits in the hole (if it has the 90degree string post) - turn it ccw 90 degrees so it is facing the nut. :?

Nice job.

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Thanks Brad! I like the precussion Idea guat:)

I am courious...something I've been courious about all along...why didn't they just run the 5th string all the way to the head? Why only to the 5th fret?



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The 5th string was meant to be a drone string, and not usually fretted. Since the standard tuning is G, why not just place the nut there?

You really need to go back into the whole history of the banjo to get some idea of how things came about. There is a member on Banjo-L who is really researching the roots of the banjo and has posted reams of information. Ulf (Jorgensen, I think - I don't have any back digests available) has done research on african instruments and players, including the atjong (spelling), and other predecessors. Fasinating stuff, and available in the archives (you need to be a member to access them, but it's free, and its banjo, so what's keeping you from joining?).

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I've been to Banjo-L website, but haven't found their forum yet. I saw the part about joining a newsgroup and getting 70 some e-mails every day...Yikes! I've never been much of a newsgrouper. If I can find the forum, I'll join in a heartbeat. I do hang atthe Banjo Hangout some...awefully big and active forum, but LOTS of information! My home is still right here:)

I do fret the 5th string any time I'm playing higher than the 5th fret...I didn't know I wasn't supposed to! :shock::cool:



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i think i'm going to have to get a banjo - i'm feeling left out! sounds great - just take it one day at a time!

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It depends on what you are playing. If you are up the neck, sometimes you fret (the 5th string ;) ), it depends on the sound you are looking for.

There is a banjo out there that has the 5th string running all the way to the peghead, but it disappears under the fretboard at the 5th fret. It is named the "Stealth" banjo, I don't know the maker off the top of my head, and it may be electric. The pictures I saw were strange!

Most OTM doesn't fret, the string is a drone. That is why there is a spike at my 7th fret - if I tune up to A or D (gDGBD or gCGCD capo 2), I slip the 5th string under the spike and voila, it is now a. If the string is too dissonate, I don't play the 5th string on that chord (of course, at my level, anything can sound dissonate :( ).

Banjo-L is a newsgroup. When I signed up, I opted for the digest version of receiving the posts, that way, I get one email a day with all of the days posts, and can read it at my leisure. Of course, it means that I just have to scroll past the stuff I'm not interested in, but there isn't much there that I'm not at least curious about. Once you have signed up, the archives become available at the Banjo-L page. If you are uninterested in the posts, you can just delete the digest email and miss lots of good stuff, or take an hour or so a couple of times a week and read the digests up to then (at one time, I got so far behind I had two months worth of reading to catch up on!).

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A banjo would land you smack-dab in the middle of Irish music!

Go for it!

:2banjo: Keep on pickin'
Brad

ps. Anybody know the chord progression to "The Unicorn" that the Irish Rovers did many years back? I am interested and will now go google!

I'm back, I found it here:

http://www.thebards.net/music/lyrics/The_Unicorn_Song.shtml

Interesting fact - Shel Silverstein wrote the original (too bad, that puts it under copyright :( )

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Thanks for the info on Banjo-L Brad, just not sure I'm ready for even more reading (between uke, guitar, blues, and banjo forums). I am a member of the Banjo Hangout...but like I've said ezFolk is my home. The Banjo Hangout is big and incredably active...to the point of almost being too much...so I just scan the active topics to see if a title sounds interesting.

So far I've never messed with spikes or capos or different tunings, and really haven't developed a drone string picking pattern...my fingers pretty much just take over and do as they please, and I'll use the high string when my brain thinks I need an accent here or there...if it's something other than a G, I just have to go up and fret it...or if I'm working high, I'll use a bar or my thumb and catch it that way. It's hard to explain, but the more I play the less I think about the mechanics. I'm always reading stuff about capos etc...but haven't found a need for one yet, or really understand the need. Well, I should clarify, I do understand that if someone learns a song and want's to raise the key and play it the same way in a higher key...but I guess my brain works differently. I would just rather fret the proper chords for the higher key, while still keeping the lower open stuff available...did that make any sense?:?:shock: ...the guys have me playing all kinds of country stuff in the keys of E, some in A, a couple in D, some in C and at least one in F. It's great to drop to open position for variety and easy chords when they fit.:) Perfect example would be the song this thread is about, played in the key of E even though the bajo is tuned to G. I couldn't even imagine trying a different tuning...it's hard enough learning one! I'm already having a very tough time going back to a standard tuned guitar:shock:

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I am a member of the Banjo Hangout...

Ditto - I was one of the original signups, but can't get on anymore, my password doesn't work (or I can't remember it). I got sidetracked by ezFolk and didn't go to the site for over 2 years, I think (I found out my password doesn't work when I tried to post something the other day).

I couldn't even imagine trying a different tuning...it's hard enough learning one! I'm already having a very tough time going back to a standard tuned guitar

Well, if I can ever get you interested in OTM (clawhammer style or even 2-finger stuff) :P, you will have to learn at least one different tuning, D (aDGDB), because many of the tunes are played there. That, which is double C, capoed 2, along with standard G capoed 2 (A), are used heavily in fiddle tunes, 'cause those are the most common keys OT fiddlers play in - Soldier's Joy, Liberty, Needlecase, to name a few.
Oh well, I think you have been lost to the demon bluegrass, anyway, which means you are beyond salvation :2devilfire:
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Ha!...I just play:)...not really sure of any "style"...I use thumb and 3 fingers, a thumb pick, but no finger picks. I don't really have any set "rolls" as they are defined, my fingers just seem to fly all over. I do a lot of 2 and 3 note pulls and squeezes. Hardly ever play something the same twice. Every time I sit down and try to do (learn) something right, I get all pissed at myself for being so uncoordinated...and just start jamming blues...regardless what instrument I'm playing. The more I play, the less I worry about how to do it, and just let it happen by ear and feel. The less I think about it, the better it comes out. Doesn't really make a difference weather it's country, bluegrass, blues, rock or whatever:) ...as for clawhammer, I have Richards video on my desktop...I've watched it a million times, it's the closest I've ever come to seeing if a ukulele would fit inside a smashed computer moniter:hammer: ...I can however, get a bumditty going with up picking if I concentrate...as long as there are Excedrins close by:drink1:

Hey, I found the Stealth Banjo...and that baby is a thing of beauty and function. Everyone who has them loves them. There are some reviews at the hangout. Who's going to give me 3 grand so I can get their cheapest model? 

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1four5 wrote:
I revived one of my old songs, to give slide banjo a try.

Glad you did. I liked this one first time around, but your playing and voice have both come a long way between the two recordings. Take it easy, Gerry.



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Good Stuff. Very Funky Banjo Sound.

The Only Banjo I've every played was a 6- String. The guitar player's way to cheat on the banjo.



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Thank you very much!:) I've been keeping the old bajo around, hoping to find a kid who wants to learn banjo...turns out to works pretty good with a slide. My good banjo is impossible to do bottle neck on, cause the action is too low. Thanks again for the comments and encouragment!:cool: 

 



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