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| Please vote for your choice of co-op song #7 | Rate Topic |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12th, 2006 04:13 pm |
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Richard Hefner Administrator 
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Okay, we've had four song recommendations for co-op song #7. Some of these have already been recorded by different people and everyone is welcome to record any or all of them, but let's decide over the next week which one we'll pick as a group. The one with the most votes in the poll as of Sunday, February 19, 2006, will be the song (that's one week from when the poll started). You can choose more than one song if you want to. You don't need to be planning on recording the co-op song to vote. Just pick the one you'd prefer to hear.
 Be sure to vote in the poll!
____________________ Richard Hefner MP3 Page: http://www.ezfolk.com/audio/richardhefner Running Blog: http://old-runner.com |
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| Posted: Sun Feb 12th, 2006 08:04 pm |
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banjo brad Super Moderator 
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Ok, my votes in! Maybe we should keep track of the rankings and allocate the next few co-op songs in that order?  (in my Arizona Home)
____________________ ezFolk Help Brad Prickly Pear Music Banjo Brad's ezFolk page TOTMC |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13th, 2006 02:55 pm |
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viking Approved 
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I hope you all don't mind me canvasing my suggestion of House Carpenter but a song in a minor key might be a change. Some musical ideas might be picked up from listening to this from KJP's official site. http://www.kellyjoephelps.net/mp3/shineeyed01.m3u OUTRAGIOUS WAY TO TREAT A FOLK SONG I first heard this about 4 years ago and it changed all my preconceptions about traditional music. THOUGHTS PLEASE TA TA MARK
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13th, 2006 04:52 pm |
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banjo brad Super Moderator
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Interesting . . .
____________________ ezFolk Help Brad Prickly Pear Music Banjo Brad's ezFolk page TOTMC |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13th, 2006 06:02 pm |
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Richard Hefner Administrator
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Wow, you're right it's different. Sounds great, but I'm not sure that a lot of us ezFolkies can sing and play like that. I always think of the Joan Baez version. Well Mark, if your campaign doesn't work out you could just record it yourself so we can hear your take on it. 
____________________ Richard Hefner MP3 Page: http://www.ezfolk.com/audio/richardhefner Running Blog: http://old-runner.com |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 13th, 2006 11:50 pm |
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viking Approved
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I know what you mean Richard I'm having a hard time getting to grips with this playing style and as I dont play slide I'm never going to sound like that nor would I want to, but his melodic Ideas are really interesting as is the way he structures the individual verses with lots of variation on the basic theme. There seems to be something else going on in his arrangements. In the uk at the momment, the BBC are running a short series on the English Folk Revival since the 1950s. Together with a lot of really good archive footage. It seems the top plyers are using a lot of open tunings and impling chords within the melody rather than playing whole chords. I may be wrong but is that not the method I hear when I listen to you guys playing Banjo?? I have to date never recorded myself ( GASP) but having joined you guys and gals I cant wait to give it a go. Most of my current sets are not PD so I'm in the process of learning some new old stuff so I can join in. I have also got to sort out a recoding medium. My gigs for this season start in March, so I may just plug a minidisk into the PA and see if anything worthy comes out. I'm a little nervous of this for allthough I've been playing live gigs for several years, and get paid for the privilage ( don't tell anyone but I'd do it for free if they didnt keep paying me) I have never really heard myself!! What if i sound dreadful on tape and can't bring myself to ever play another note. DISASTER BY THE WAY THANKS FOR A GREAT SITE AND FORUM WHICH I"M REALLY ENJOYING BEING A PART OF 
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14th, 2006 12:17 am |
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viking Approved
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Some thing a bit more traditional http://folktunes.org/music/extensions/stream.php?audioURL=http://www.archive.org/download/Carpenter/HouseCarpenter.mp3&format=.m3u Clarance Ashley APRIL 14th 1930
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14th, 2006 12:29 am |
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banjo brad Super Moderator
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Viking- Thanks for that link! There is hope for you, yet! The instrument in this case is an accompanyment to the voice, which is carrying the story forward. I [bold]have to get hold of some more Clarence Ashly stuff! Now, where's that checkbook?
____________________ ezFolk Help Brad Prickly Pear Music Banjo Brad's ezFolk page TOTMC |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14th, 2006 12:57 am |
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viking Approved
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Hi everyone this is the last version of this song I'll post but I thought the banjo players might really like it .It's a clip of Peggy Seager playing an exclusive for the BBC's Folk Brittania series which you may not have seen yet outside of the UK http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/broadband/mediawrapper/consoles/bbcfour?redirect=console.shtml&nbram=1&bbram=1&clip=pack1-folk_seeger_16x9 You will need real player to see it but its well worth it ENJOY MARK
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14th, 2006 01:12 am |
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viking Approved
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Hi Brad In doing a bit of research on The House Carpenter ( a 13th century english poem !!) I came across some really interesting sites so just for you follow the links on this for more clarance http://folktunes.org/wiki/The_House_Carpenter_-_Clarence_Ashley HAVE FUN WITH THAT LOT MARK
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14th, 2006 01:26 am |
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BRAD !!! Ive just seen the lyrics for MY SWEET FARM GIRL recorded by Clarence Ashley 1931 Dont let anyone tell you that HIP HOP has cornered the market on xxx lyrics. I doubt this would get past the censors on uK radio and were condidered very liberal broadcasters. GULP ITS 2 AM here so I'd best get to bed and try not to wake my better half.Or maybe I will. GOODNIGHT
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14th, 2006 02:03 am |
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banjo brad Super Moderator
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Mark- If you can, drop by a library and try to get your hands on the book: "Roll Me in Your Arms: Unprintable Ozark Folksongs and Folklore" by Vance Randolph, published by the University of Arkansas Press copyright 1992. From the remarks of a poster on banjo-L: "As the title suggests, it prints the music and lyrics of tunes collected from the Ozarks between 1915 and 1955 that were not fit for previous print. We're not talking about lyrics that don't meet the prudish standards of times past, we're talking really really dirty stuff here! I recall having read in the liner notes to field recordings once or twice that the tune presented had words that the performer was unwilling to present to the mic, and that always made me wonder... now I know why. Many of the songs are just plain pornographic, many violently so, most incorporate various swear words showing that the f-bomb was as popular then as it is today. Some of it would make modern rap artists blush!"
____________________ ezFolk Help Brad Prickly Pear Music Banjo Brad's ezFolk page TOTMC |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14th, 2006 01:04 pm |
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viking Approved
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I'll look that one up.people like that kind of song when there are no kids about!! It seems even Peggy Seager cannot save the fortunes of The House Carpenter as it slips enexorably down the poles and into the salt salt sea.  What did you make of the clip? MARK
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14th, 2006 05:41 pm |
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banjo brad Super Moderator
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Too short! Can't get the video large enough to see her style - it appears to have some up-picking in it, and I believe that she taught Pete how to play, so that would make sense. I would love to see this series make it to the States soon, even maybe just on DVD - I'd buy it! I need to add House Carpenter to my song list - I used to do it years ago with the guitar. We'll get it back as a co-op soon, if it doesn't pick up more votes. I am going to keep track of the order, and try to work one up every month or so, as I find time (taking fiddle and giving banjo lessons takes a lot of time)!
____________________ ezFolk Help Brad Prickly Pear Music Banjo Brad's ezFolk page TOTMC |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15th, 2006 12:31 am |
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viking Approved
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HI BRAD It seems by picking of the url for that clip I affected its ability to go fullscreen I you go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/folkcountry/ and follow the links it will enlarge half way down -Folk Brittania more -at BBC four right hand side -video clips There is lot more to see and hear from this side of the pond onthese pages so I hope you find time to enjoy them. PS invariably all bbc productions end up on a cd these days maybe I can mail you a copy when it becomes available 
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| Posted: Thu Feb 16th, 2006 04:32 am |
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AmyDK Approved
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Mark - I loved that clip of Peggy Seeger - just wish it were longer. I've been wanting to see her play for the longest time, but she canceled her concert here in Chicago, so I guess the clip is all I'll get. Thanks for sharing that site too. I've bookmarked it! Amy DK
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17th, 2006 01:41 am |
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I'm probably way out in left field here, but I'd like to see something on Scarborough Fair. Anyone know where I can get words and tab? Peter Abresch, IMBA best selling author of Bloody Bonsai, Killing Thyme, Tip A Canoe, Painted Lady, the Jim Dandy ELDERHOSTEL Mysteries: http://www.elderhostelmysteries.com EASY READING WRITING, & BookMarc: http://www.easyreadingwriting.com
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17th, 2006 03:03 am |
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banjo brad Super Moderator
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PF- Give me a day or two, then watch your e-mail! Save the whales. Collect the whole set.
____________________ ezFolk Help Brad Prickly Pear Music Banjo Brad's ezFolk page TOTMC |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17th, 2006 12:01 pm |
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viking Approved
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HI PETER This is a song that gets played a lot over here in the UK being a song that was taken back to the states by both Simon and Dylan after hearing it played by Martin Carthy. And made popular on best selling albums during the 60s folk revival. This is interesting on several levels concerning folk music and previous posts on PD It is generaly understood that Martin Carthy has always been slightly unimpressed that his arrangement of a folk song went on to make million dollar plus royalties in both albums and film only to never to see a penny. Whereas the Dylan song Girl from the North Country is obviously based on Scarborough Fair but is not considered PD, the theme, words, melody and chord structure having been changed sufficiently for it to be considered a new song (very astute of Bob that) . Which is a shame because having heard Sam Bush's arrangement I came up with a new arrangement of this song influenced somewhere between Dylan and Bush which I would love to record but can only use live at licenced gigs. Over here the song is variously played in the beautiful finger picked style ala Carthy/Simon, as a minor blues or traditionaly as a Madrical. I'm not really sure how to define that but I know how it sounds. The TAB in the S&G Song book is excelent, a copy of this fell on the public library photocopier back in my teens ( I hasten to add I bought a copy shortly after) and I found playing the intro fascinating as a budding finger picker. Good luck with this its a good song MARK
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17th, 2006 03:17 pm |
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viking Approved
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HI AGAIN PETER This is an arrangement I've just pulled of a tab site for guitar. I have not had a chance to play it but at first glance it looks OK. I usualy play this arrangement at the 5th fret Dm Not sure how it will adapt to banjo, cant wait to hear though I dont use the canticle ( in brackets) part it doesn,t belong in the traditional song SCARBOROUGH FAIR/CANTICLE- Simon and Garfunkel Are you going to Scarborough Fair Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme Remember me to one who lives there She was once a true love of mine Tell her to make me a cambric shirt (On the side of a hill in the deep forest green) Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme (Tracing of sparrow on snowcrested brown) Without no seams nor needle work (Blankets and bedclothes the child of the mountain) Then she'll be a true love of mine (Sleeps unaware of the clarion call) Tell her to find me an acre of land (On the side of a hill a sprinkling of leaves) Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme (Washes the grave with silvery tears) Between the salt water and the sea strands (A soldier cleans and polishes a gun) Then she'll be a true love of mine Tell her to reap it with a sickle of leather (War bellows blazing in scarlet battalions) Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme (Generals order their soldiers to kill) And gather it all in a bunch of heather (And to fight for a cause they've long ago forgotten) Then she'll be a true love of mine Are you going to Scarborough Fair Parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme Remember me to one who lives there She was once a true love of mine Scarborough Fair/Canticle Introduction: E ---0---------|---0---------|---------|| B ---5-----3---|---------3---|---0-----|| G -----0-----0-|-----0-----0-|-----0---|| D -------4-----|-------4-----|---------|| A -0-----------|-5-----------|-3-----2-|| E -------------|-------------|---------|| E ---0---------|---0---------|---0---------|---0---------|| B ---------3---|---------0---|---------3---|---------0---|| G -----0-----0-|-----2-----2-|-----0-----0-|-----2-----2-|| D -------4-----|-------2-----|-------4-----|-------2-----|| A -0-----------|-0-----------|-0-----------|-0-----------|| E -------------|-------------|-------------|-------------|| Verse: $ Am (*) G Am E ---0---------|---0---------|---------------|---0---------|| B ---------3---|---------0---|---0-----1-0---|---------3---|| G -----0-----0-|-----2-----2-|-----0-------0-|-----0-----0-|| D -------4-----|-------2-----|-------0-2-----|-------4-----|| A -0-----------|-0-----------|---------------|-0-----------|| E -------------|-------------|-3-------------|-------------|| Are you going to Scarborough Fair? C Am C D E ---0---------|---0---------|---0---------|---0---2-------|| B ---------0---|---------1---|-------------|-----------3---|| G -----2-----2-|-----0-----0-|-----0---3---|-----0---2---2-|| D -------2-----|-------2-----|-------4---0-|-------0---0---|| A -0-----------|-3-----------|-0-----------|-3-------------|| E -------------|-------------|-------------|---------------|| Parsley, sage, rose- mary and Am E ---0---------|---0---------|---0---------|---0---------|| B ---------3---|---------0---|---------3---|-------------|| G -----0-----0-|-----2-----2-|-----0-----0-|-----2-----2-|| D -------4-----|-------2-----|-------4-----|-------2-----|| A -0-----------|-0-----------|-0-----------|-0-----------|| E -------------|-------------|-------------|-------------|| thyme Re- C (Bm) (Am) G E ---0---------|---0---------|-0-----------|-----------------|| B -------------|---------1---|-----3---1---|---0--------1-0--|| G -----2-------|-----0-----0-|---0---0---0-|-----0---0-------|| D -------2-----|-------2-----|-------------|-------0----2-0--|| A -0-------0-2-|-3-----------|-3---2---0---|-----------------|| E -------------|-------------|-------------|-3---------------|| mem- ber me to one who lives there Am G (Am) (G) (Am) (G) E -----------|---0---------|-------------|--------------|| B --1--0-----|---------0---|-0--------1--|-0---0h1p0----|| G -----------|-----2-----2-|---0---0-----|-----------0--|| D --2--0-----|-------2-----|-----0----2--|-0---0h2p0----|| A -----------|-0-----------|-------------|--------------|| E --------3--|-------------|-3-----------|--------------|| She once was a true love of Am D.S for verses 2,3,4,5 E ---0---------|---0---------|---0---------|---0---------|| last time skip B ---------3---|---------0---|---------3---|---------0---|| to Coda G -----0-----0-|-----2-----2-|-----0-----0-|-----2-----2-|| D -------4-----|-------2-----|-------4-----|-------2-----|| A -0-----------|-0-----------|-0-----------|-0-----------|| E -------------|-------------|-------------|-------------|| mine Coda: Am E ---0---------|---0---------|---0---------|---0---------|| B ---------3---|---------0---|---------3---|---------0---|| G -----0-----0-|-----2-----2-|-----0-----0-|-----2-----2-|| D -------4-----|-------2-----|-------4-----|-------2-----|| A -0-----------|-0-----------|-0-----------|-0-----------|| E -------------|-------------|-------------|-------------|| E ---0---------|---0---------|---------|-----|| B ---------3---|---------3---|---0-----|-----|| G -----0-----0-|-----0-----0-|-----0---|-----|| D -------4-----|-------4-----|---------|-----|| A -0-----------|-5-----------|-3-----2-|-0---|| E -------------|-------------|---------|-----|| HAVE FUN MARK Last edited on Fri Feb 17th, 2006 03:33 pm by Richard Hefner ____________________ Hear You Soon MARK |
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