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 Posted: Tue Jun 10th, 2008 03:04 am
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PhilUSAFRet wrote: Some folks balk at spending money on something as cheap as the Amigo.  So it's 42 bucks, install a tusq nut and some grover tuners, Aquila strings.......you have $150 uke (at least) for a hundred bucks and with those upgrades, it no longer is a $42 uke.  You get what you pay for, including the upgrades.
All the Amigo baritone needs is a set of Aquila strings and a set of $15 open-geared tuners to improve the sound.  All the other upgrades are unnecessary and expensive overkill, in my opinion.  I've gigged with it and recorded with it.

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In addition to tuning machines and Aquila strings, Was talking about a nut (less than $10)  All the other expensive upgrades being overkill??????

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PhilUSAFRet wrote: In addition to tuning machines and Aquila strings, Was talking about a nut (less than $10)  All the other expensive upgrades being overkill??????
I can't fathom spending more money on upgrades than the entire cost of the instrument.  My Amigo baritone cost $50.  The Aquila Nylgut strings cost $8.  The open-geared tuners cost (at that time) $10 a set.  (Grover tuners are nicer, but heavier, more expensive, and aren't really necessary; open-geared tuners do the job.)  Even with shipping from separate dealers, I spent, at most, $75 total, not $100.  There are no other brands of solid spruce top baritones for under $150 anywhere, that I know of.  

Changing the strings to Nylgut or flurocarbon is the least expensive upgrade and makes the biggest difference in tonal improvement.  A replacement nut and saddle may require a lot of work to grind them to the correct size to fit; one size does not fit all, and it's definitely not a beginner's project.  The friction tuning pegs that come with the Amigo baritone are probably decent; I just prefer geared tuners.

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Always interesting to ponder why what's simple to one is unfamothable to another, LOL!

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Ellen asked "So, has anyboy actually ordered the Amigo Baritone from Harmony Online? "

I ordered one from Harmony Online a while back and, after placing my order, was told weeks later it was on backorder.  It was disappointing that there was not a notice on the on-line catalog that the item was out of stock at the time I placed my order.  I feel I wasted a few months since I would have shopped elsewhere that day.  And the date kept getting pushed back so I finally canceled the order. 

I ended up buying a Kay Deluxe baritone from Appollo's Axes, whom I orginally contacted to buy the Amigo bari, but Apollo's right away told me it was on backorder which caused me to go to Harmony.  So, I ended up going back to Apollo's for the Kay.  The Amigo must be great since it always seems to be on backorder - I presume it is popular.  

The Kay is much better than I expected, but when I get my second one I will try out an Oscar Schmidt or another one with geared tuners, since I am too lazy to swap the friction tuners on the Amigo.      

 

 

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I did not mean to sound misleading....the Kay has geared tuners... I was referring to the Amigo when I made the remark because I believe it has friction tuners. 

The Kay is fine, sounds fine and is durable....I said I'll probably try the Oscar Schmidt since I just figured I should try out different brands since I plan to buy another one or two baritone ukes.  I don't think I will dislike Kay, Amigo or the $100 plus baris out there.   

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larry c wrote: I did not mean to sound misleading....the Kay has geared tuners... I was referring to the Amigo when I made the remark because I believe it has friction tuners. 

The Kay is fine, sounds fine and is durable....I said I'll probably try the Oscar Schmidt since I just figured I should try out different brands since I plan to buy another one or two baritone ukes.  I don't think I will dislike Kay, Amigo or the $100 plus baris out there.   

I bought my Amigo baritone from Apollo's Axes in 2003, and it does indeed come with friction tuners. 



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Will,

I recently purchased an Amigo Baritone uke and wanted to replace the friction tuners with geared ones, so I bought the Ping tuners you recommended (I got them from Elderly for only $8.65).  Swapping the tuners wasn't as straightforward as I thought it would be since the shafts are much smaller than the drilled holes.  Where did you get the proper bushings and caps for the holes?  How did you handle the situation?

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nojob32 wrote: Will,

I recently purchased an Amigo Baritone uke and wanted to replace the friction tuners with geared ones, so I bought the Ping tuners you recommended (I got them from Elderly for only $8.65).  Swapping the tuners wasn't as straightforward as I thought it would be since the shafts are much smaller than the drilled holes.  Where did you get the proper bushings and caps for the holes?  How did you handle the situation?

I never bothered to find bushings; to me, they're just cosmetic things for the sake of appearance.  The geared tuners work fine without them, as long as you carefully center the tuner shafts when you mount them on the back of the headstock. 

If you would really like to have bushings installed, I found this dealer that makes sets of metallic bushings for existing guitar tuning machines, but they're likely to be a bit wider than the shaft diameters of the Ping tuners you bought, and you would have to drill out the headstock holes even wider to install the bushings.  The photo below shows a set of 6 chrome finish bushings that have built in threads and hexagonal heads designed to be screwed in.

http://www.guitarpartsresource.com/tuners_partsbushings.htm




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I never bothered to find bushings; to me, they're just cosmetic things for the sake of appearance. The geared tuners work fine without them, as long as you carefully center the tuner shafts when you mount them on the back of the headstock.
I edited my previous post slightly, clicked on "preview", liked what I saw, clicked on "send", and lost everything!  Now I have no choice but to start over; I should have left well-enough alone.

The small screws that come with the Ping tuners will hold the units in place and prevent them from turning on the headstock, but I was concerned that when string tension is applied to a small peg in a large hole the peg will flex and tilt, putting undue force on the screws.....and I confess to wanting a neater appearance without a dust-collecting channel around each peg.

You did get me to dig deeper into the situation in search of a solution, so thanks for that!  I found these bushings at Elderly.com for only 70ยข apiece and they just might push in without having to enlarge the drilled holes.  When I get around to placing an order (for strings?), I'll give these bushings a try.




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Hi everyone:
I have been reading a lot about Bushman and how they are not available, yet I see that they are in Nashville IN. and they seem to be in business and are taking orders at the jumping flea.

Does anyone know the history of Bushman and why it was believed they went out of business?

http://www.jumpingflea.com/index.html?c35.html&1

http://www.easyukulele.com/bushman-ukulele.html

http://www.easyukulele.com/favorite-ukulele-links.html

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