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| Posted: Wed Jan 25th, 2006 09:59 am |
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Jayse Approved 
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greetz all, Being raised in the UK im not really an old time/bluegrass kinda guy, so i've been looking for a different sound with clawhammer. i was doing some right hand training last night and got to thinking, "what do others do?" Here's some of the "advanced??" right hand techniques that i'm training for... maybe you can post some more? Jayse 1. alternating standard knocking with thumb lead. This is great, you can really create some different sounds with this technique, cos the drone leading all the time sounds very different to the drone following. Drone/AnyString/Drone triplets sound nice too!. 2. arpeggiated chords, sweeping a number of strings instead of strumming. This is cool, ive seen some folk calling it a "galax lick" but that's just someone putting a label on something thats been done for hundreds of years, but again, it lets you play the next string(s) down without crossing your thumb over, you can do it faster and get a better sound. excellent for those bluegrass rolls. When you get good you can introduce string skipping (eg; lick the 3rd and 1st strings missing the 2nd). 3. choking with the flesh of the picking finger. This is hard, ive just started and hope to get a good sound, when you pick with the finger just raise the finger again till it touches the string you just played and mutes it.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 26th, 2006 01:11 am |
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banjo brad Super Moderator 
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The "galax lick" is just that - a specific lick developed by the localized players in the Galax area of (W. Va? I'm not sure of the geography). It consists of a roll with the picking finger down 4 strings, followed by two (2) 5th string thumbs.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 26th, 2006 07:34 am |
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Jayse Approved
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really? all 3 of my books say its two strings with the finger and one drone. anyone got any other offers?
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| Posted: Thu Jan 26th, 2006 09:10 am |
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Jayse Approved
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ok, ive just done some research on the web, and really i dont think there is such a thing as a galax lick (yeah yeah i hear ya) but in 10 mins searching ive found 3 or 4 examples and most of them are different, 2 strings,3 strings 4strings, 1 drone, 2 drones. so really the technique doesnt exist. The only thing they have in common is the sweep stroke, which in my mind isnt worthy of a name other than sweep stroke  seeing as the thumb is only putting one or two quarter notes on the end of it, aint that just switching to thumb lead?
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| Posted: Thu Jan 26th, 2006 10:58 am |
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beeconk Approved
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Jayse wrote:
I'm not clear on what a "thumb lead" is as I'm very challenged when it comes to musical terminology, but your mentioning drone/string/drone triples piqued my memory - I do that with oddball tunings like F# DADE or ECGCD and work the 5th into the melody instead of using it as a drone - the problem being that you have to remember to cut back on the drone and concentrate on playing the melody
This is a nice touch - I've also been doing that sweep thing with my thumb a lot on my ukulele (which I two- finger pick) David Holt uses it to great effect on his intermediate instructional Clawhammer dvds
I "cluck" brush strokes very often which is not the same thing I know, but I'm not sure I understand why it's better to mute the note with your frailing finger when purposefully sloppy fretting could have the same effect and leave your right hand to do other things. Last edited on Thu Jan 26th, 2006 11:01 am by beeconk |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 6th, 2006 08:46 am |
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Jayse Approved
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hi all, soz i havent kept up with this thread, ... thanks for the correction about the galax lick brad, i dug those books out and of course you were right and i was wrong (again lol). muting with the right hand has the obvious effect of freeing up the left hand to work the fretboard, it also has the ability to mute open strings. (yeah left hand can do that too) im not sure it has any advantages over left hand muting other than that obvious one. I find most of my work being done with the left hand, so having something new for the right hand is an extra trick for the bag. Ill try to get a mic setup and record a bit... beeconk... thumb lead is just playing the beat with the thumb and the and's with the finger. muting with the left hand does free the right hand to play another note(s) but muting with the right hand frees the left hand to play "many" notes, hammers/slides/pullofs etc. so if you are playing a "full" sound you dont have to have empty space around yor muted notes. also, when you get "rocking" it may get tricky muting one string with the left hand while others are fretted and playing. right hand muting means your left hand doesnt need to break its stride.
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