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| "Little red peach", what instrument? | Rate Topic |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25th, 2009 09:45 pm |
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huqiner Approved
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I have a LP record with a recording of the Guangdong Music piece ""Little red peach" (xiao tao hong), called "Peach Blossom" on the record, but there is no information about the performers or instruments except for "produced, arranged and conducted by Professor Hoshiang Lee". I'm wondering what the high pitched lead instrument is. It doesn't have the sound of the traditional type gaohu (between the knees type). My guess it's a banhu, then it occur to me it might be the type of gaohu played on the leg, like an erhu. I would still go for the banhu. Peach Blossom, China - Decca Eclipse LP 1972: http://sharebee.com/aa059842 It's from this LP: http://www.discogs.com/Professor-Hoshiang-Lee-China-Chinese-Music-Played-With-Traditional-Chinese-Musical-Instruments/release/1876832
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25th, 2009 11:35 pm |
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I know what you mean, that it sounds like a banhu, although I am not sure that it sounds strident enough. The main problem though is that the banhu is from Northern China, while Guangdong/Cantonese music is from the South. The gaohu is the most common hugin in Cantonese music, so normally that would be my guess. However, another possibility is that the lead instrument in Little Red Peach is a Cantonese erxian, which was supposedly replaced by the gaohu. The photo on Wikipedia shows a wooden top on the resonator like on a banhu. I have not heard the sound of an erxian, so I don't know if this is a reasonable possibility. It is most likely a gaohu in the recording, but it is difficult to know for sure. Best wishes, David
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26th, 2009 04:38 am |
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Now why didn't I think of the erxian! It does have a wooden face like the banhu, and it does have a sort of strident quality somewhat like the banhu. I have several recordings of the Cantonese erxian, actually only a couple actually says "erxian" but the other ones definitely have the same sort of sound, I'll upload some later. They're all more up-tempo and lively, and have a more earthy "folk" flavour so maybe that's why I didn't associate the erxian with the recording in question. The Hugo CD "Guangdong Folk Tunes" has the erxian as one of the instruments in the "hard string" ensemble, but it's not prominent in the mix. Also, I don't know where the recording comes from, I thought possibly it might be Taiwan, so I though the performers might be a "generic" ensemble who play any sort of Chinese music in a general "Chinese" style using standard instruments, and might not use such a localised instrument like an erxian. The recording has a sheng in it, and I don't think that's really used at all in Guangdong Music. Another thing; I can't check right now so I might be wrong but I think it's in G, whereas Guangdong musicians would play it a fourth higher in C (gaohu tuned to G, D with sol, re open stings). So thinking about it, it could be a gaohu but I still think it has the sound qualities of a wooden-faced fiddle.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26th, 2009 10:37 pm |
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This one is erhu then erxian, it has a sort of symphonic accompaniment: Phoenix Platform on Yinhua Mountain http://sharebee.com/1e356a95 Actually stated as erxian on the CD: A piece of plum blossom http://sharebee.com/4435bbfc These I think are erxian. Erxian is mentioned in the general list of performers and instruments on the CD/cassette but not on the individual tracks: Xian Nv Mu Yang (female immortal tending sheep) http://sharebee.com/d0f6bed5 Funny rhythm (qu yun) http://sharebee.com/e2bb77ce
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